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WooHoo! Deficit reduction by $60k ! BUOY SUPPORT REMOVED!

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Service Change Notice 13-2
National Weather Service Headquarters Washington DC
1050 AM EST Thu Jan 3 2013

To: Subscribers:
-Family of Services
-NOAA Weather Wire Service
-Emergency Managers Weather Information Network
-NOAAPORT
Other NWS Partners, Users and Employees

From: Mark A. Tew
Chief, Marine and Coastal Services Branch

Subject: Due to lack of funds, NDBC Buoy 41012, Offshore
St. Augustine, Florida, is no longer supported
effective immediately

The National Ocean Service (NOS) Coastal Storms Program (CSP) has
discontinued sponsorship of National Data Buoy Center (NDBC) buoy
41012. This buoy is considered unfunded. Buoy 41012 is located
about 40 nautical miles east northeast of St. Augustine, Florida,
at coordinates 30.042 North, 80.534 West. The approximate
location of the buoy is show in the link below.

http://batchgeo.com/map/c741f75df1fc...e45ddba1e4ed7d

Annual cost to operate this buoy is about $60,000, plus U.S.
Coast Guard support to service it. At this time, the buoy is
fully operational and transmitting data. If problems with data
transmission develop, there is no funding to repair the buoy and
it will no longer transmit data. There is no way to determine how
long the data will be available.

Buoy 41012 was deployed in June 2002. The CSP is not an
operational program and typically does not provide long term
funding for projects. The CSP and NDBC have been working together
for the past few years to find an alternative funding source for
this buoy but have been unsuccessful.

For more information on this buoy and itscurrent data, see the
link below.

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=41012

Please provide any comments to the following e-mail address with
the subject line: Unfunded Buoy 41012:

Marine.Weather@noaa.gov
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Okay, now we are well on our way to financial bliss as we're not going to spend $60k keeping up this buoy. (Not the only one being cut, either.)

Sure, in a relative sense, we're going to save 1/1000 of a penny, here, but every 1/1000 of a penny counts!
/sarc

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Updated 01-03-2013 at 04:20 PM by atmoaggie

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  1. FtMyersgal's Avatar
    The entire Congress, Legistative Branch and Executive branch should be impeached IMO

    BTW FIRST!
  2. SQUAWK's Avatar
    REPORTED!!!

    I second that motion!!!!
  3. NavarreMark's Avatar
    FIRST!!!
  4. NavarreMark's Avatar
    RATS!!!!!

    I am imposing the mandatory self ban on myself. Good bye.
  5. libgoon's Avatar
    That is really Sad Atmo .. need stuff like bouys to monitor valuable data . You would think with Sandy there there would be more expenditure going into this equipment ...
  6. FtMyersgal's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by SQUAWK
    REPORTED!!!

    I second that motion!!!!

    We must look ridiculous to the rest of the world. Fighting like kids on a playground!

  7. libgoon's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by FtMyersgal
    We must look ridiculous to the rest of the world. Fighting like kids on a playground!

    Not really, Western politicians from what I see are all the same ......But what bugs me is who owns the majority of the wests debt that is the scary thing ....and the interest we are paying is just down right scarey ....
  8. Scooster67's Avatar
    With the Whitehouse leading from the far left and Congress from the far right..........what else should we have expected. How can they be brought together? or gone?.........
  9. FtMyersgal's Avatar
    The U.S. debt is more than $16 trillion. The U.S. has been able to run up such a huge debt because it always has the ability to pay it off by auctioning off more Treasury notes.

    However, there is a debt ceiling set by Congress. Whenever the debt approaches this ceiling, legislators raise concerns about the ability of the U.S. to pay back its debt. It's of special concern now that the debt-to-GDP ratio has passed 100%. This means that the U.S. debt is larger than its entire economy produces in a year. Even though it's still unlikely, those who own U.S. debt have become increasingly concerned that perhaps the U.S. will default on its debt.

    Most of the news headlines focus on how much the U.S. owes China. And, in fact, China is the largest foreign owner of U.S. debt. However, the biggest single owner is ... you. Why? Because the single largest holder of national debt is the Social Security Trust Fund, aka your retirement money
  10. NavarreMark's Avatar
    The $60K could provide section 8 housing for a couple of single moms.

    Think of the children.
  11. Tulsahurrcane's Avatar
    Does this mean St Augustine is history? I'm so confused...
  12. libgoon's Avatar
    Going to be serious , bouys are rather important for interpeting data that could save money down the line ....there must be better ways of saving money ... But I maintain the NWS and NHC should consider fund raising by seeing if they could do a sponsor a storm idea ....
  13. Tulsahurrcane's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by libgoon
    Going to be serious , bouys are rather important for interpeting data that could save money down the line ....there must be better ways of saving money ... But I maintain the NWS and NHC should consider fund raising by seeing if they could do a sponsor a storm idea ....
    I hear you Lib...if we must be serious, and occasionally we must, it's going to take cutting into a whole lot of things to get this mess under control. We'll agree with some and not with others but we really have to dig down and cut out a lot of crap, some of which we won't like. I want an end to endless entitlements but I expect we'll also suffer on any number of fronts. Glad to do it, even willing to deal with tax hikes, if we can stop the bleeding and stop adding to the legacy we're leaving the next generation.
  14. StAugustineFL's Avatar
    Why did they pick my buoy? SOB's!
  15. FtMyersgal's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Tulsahurrcane
    I hear you Lib...if we must be serious, and occasionally we must, it's going to take cutting into a whole lot of things to get this mess under control. We'll agree with some and not with others but we really have to dig down and cut out a lot of crap, some of which we won't like. I want an end to endless entitlements but I expect we'll also suffer on any number of fronts. Glad to do it, even willing to deal with tax hikes, if we can stop the bleeding and stop adding to the legacy we're leaving the next generation.
    1,000,000 +++ Tulsa. Couldn'thave said it better. Future generations will think what selfish folks we were...
  16. Tulsahurrcane's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by StAugustineFL
    Why did they pick my buoy? SOB's!
    I know Aug.....I feel your pain....
  17. libgoon's Avatar
    Did St Augustine not have impacts of Alberto , beryl ,Debby and Sandy ? Seems a funny one to cut ...
  18. Tulsahurrcane's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by FtMyersgal
    1,000,000 +++ Tulsa. Couldn'thave said it better. Future generations will think what selfish folks we were...
    Yep, FtMyers, I think they'll remember that long after they forget how spoiled they were growing up!! LOL! It's the way of the world!
  19. StAugustineFL's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by libgoon
    Did St Augustine not have impacts of Alberto , beryl ,Debby and Sandy ? Seems a funny one to cut ...
    Alberto gave us less than Bonnie like conditions - I had a couple of cirrus clouds. Beryl and Debby were much more significant. Sandy was a high surf event.
  20. NavarreMark's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by StAugustineFL
    Why did they pick my buoy? SOB's!
    Thats what my dear mother said when I was drafted into the U.S. Army.
  21. Tulsahurrcane's Avatar
    LOL!!!!! Funny Mark!!!
  22. libgoon's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by NavarreMark
    Thats what my dear mother said when I was drafted into the U.S. Army.
    LOL . I bet she did
  23. Tulsahurrcane's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by libgoon
    LOL . I bet she did
    I can't help but wonder what else she said...as a mother of course...
  24. Tulsahurrcane's Avatar
    Aug's buoy is now unfunded...I think you should go check on it Mark...just sayin...we're a family here....
  25. NavarreMark's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Tulsahurrcane
    Aug's buoy is now unfunded...I think you should go check on it Mark...just sayin...we're a family here....
    I knew a guy who stopped funding his bouy and the judge threw him in the slammer.
  26. Tulsahurrcane's Avatar
    OK, I think you've missed the spirit of Christmas Mark....I 'm sending my relatives from Roswell to visit you. (I was born in Roswell)

    That seems like a weird comment but aren't you from NM Mark...I was tthinking around that area but quite possibly wrong...that happens to me a lot
    Updated 01-06-2013 at 12:25 PM by Tulsahurrcane
  27. Tulsahurrcane's Avatar
    Dr. Brown delivered me in case any of you wonder...
    Updated 01-06-2013 at 12:26 PM by Tulsahurrcane
  28. atmoaggie's Avatar
    Also note that they "unfunded" this one: NDBC - Station 46089

    And this coastal observation station: NDBC - Station CARO3
  29. MSGAL's Avatar
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  30. atmoaggie's Avatar
    And will cease the QPF forecasts for Puerto Rico found here: Experimental QPF for Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Service Change Notice 13-4
    National Weather Service Headquarters Washington DC
    400 PM EST Thu Jan 3 2013

    To: Subscribers:
    -Family of Services
    -NOAA Weather Wire Service
    -Emergency Managers Weather Information Network
    -NOAAPORT
    Other NWS partners and NWS employees

    From: James E. Hoke
    Director Hydrometeorological Prediction Center

    Subject: Termination of the Experimental Quantitative
    Precipitation Forecasts for Puerto Rico and the U.S.
    Virgin Island

    The comment period for HPC experimental Quantitative
    Precipitation Forecasts (QPFs) for Puerto Rico and the U.S.
    Virgin Islands ended November 30, 2012. Based on feedback from
    customers, the product will be terminated on February 3, 2013.

    The products are available online at:

    Experimental QPF for Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    That was an experimental one...
    But, I wonder what's next.
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